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	<title>Comments on: kogan agora wireless performance (VT6656 Via Arena adapter)</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/07/22/kogan-agora-wireless-performance-vt6656-via-arena-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-15591</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I picked up a USB wireless stick for $24 from MSY in Ultimo.  (Dick Smith and co wanted $50 for one).

I now have much better wireless performance under Ubuntu and Windows.  The stick connects to hotspots that the internal card doesn&#039;t even see.

MSY actually had a wireless stick listed for only $12, but had none in stock when I visited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picked up a USB wireless stick for $24 from MSY in Ultimo.  (Dick Smith and co wanted $50 for one).</p>
<p>I now have much better wireless performance under Ubuntu and Windows.  The stick connects to hotspots that the internal card doesn&#8217;t even see.</p>
<p>MSY actually had a wireless stick listed for only $12, but had none in stock when I visited.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kayno,

Thank you for the reply 4 hrs sound good. I ran the wireless under Linux and under Windows 7 and the performance was about the same.... not good was very easy to manage in linux though. The sound however is much much better under windows 7 - you can actually hear it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kayno,</p>
<p>Thank you for the reply 4 hrs sound good. I ran the wireless under Linux and under Windows 7 and the performance was about the same&#8230;. not good was very easy to manage in linux though. The sound however is much much better under windows 7 &#8211; you can actually hear it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/07/22/kogan-agora-wireless-performance-vt6656-via-arena-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-14850</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kayno,

That doesn&#039;t explain why wireless performance under Windows is so much better than Ubuntu.  Have you compared this yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kayno,</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t explain why wireless performance under Windows is so much better than Ubuntu.  Have you compared this yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: kayno</title>
		<link>http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/07/22/kogan-agora-wireless-performance-vt6656-via-arena-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-14746</link>
		<dc:creator>kayno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael

your test (swapping the eee&#039;s wifi card into the agora) adds more weight to the antenna being at fault in the agora.

I get just under 4hrs with the 6 cell battery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael</p>
<p>your test (swapping the eee&#8217;s wifi card into the agora) adds more weight to the antenna being at fault in the agora.</p>
<p>I get just under 4hrs with the 6 cell battery.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I have one of the Agoras that were going cheap with the 3 cell battery. I also have one of the original  7&quot; eeePC&#039;s. The only complaint I have about the Agora is the wireless. I noticed that the wireless on my 7&quot; eee was way better than the Agora so seeing I was going to retire the eee I took the wireless card out of the eee and put it in the Agora, no real improvement in performance, could still see the base stations but couldn&#039;t connect reliably.. I am running windows 7 on the Agora and it works excellently... I swapped the wireless back and now when I want to use wireless I use a USB NETCOMM modem....  with which I get slightly better performance than the wireless on the eee. Can any of you tell me what battery life you get out of the 6 cell? 
Cheers &amp; thanks for the information... Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have one of the Agoras that were going cheap with the 3 cell battery. I also have one of the original  7&#8243; eeePC&#8217;s. The only complaint I have about the Agora is the wireless. I noticed that the wireless on my 7&#8243; eee was way better than the Agora so seeing I was going to retire the eee I took the wireless card out of the eee and put it in the Agora, no real improvement in performance, could still see the base stations but couldn&#8217;t connect reliably.. I am running windows 7 on the Agora and it works excellently&#8230; I swapped the wireless back and now when I want to use wireless I use a USB NETCOMM modem&#8230;.  with which I get slightly better performance than the wireless on the eee. Can any of you tell me what battery life you get out of the 6 cell?<br />
Cheers &amp; thanks for the information&#8230; Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Brown</title>
		<link>http://agoranetbook.kayno.net/2009/07/22/kogan-agora-wireless-performance-vt6656-via-arena-adapter/comment-page-1/#comment-14479</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just taken my Agora Pro away for the first time.  It&#039;s only about a month old, so it has the newer wireless card.

I too, was thoroughly unimpressed with the wireless performance, getting either weak, slow signals or hotspots that I knew were there simply not appearing in the list of network connections at all.  This was using Ubuntu 9.04 and also 9.10 Release Candidate.

Out of desperation, I tried a Windows partition, installed with the drivers that are available on the Kogan site.  I was rewarded with a dramatic improvement in performance.  A hotspot at Sydney airport was showing as 30% under Ubuntu, and was pig slow and kept disconnecting.  Under Windows, it showed as 80% and was giving nice and fast download speeds.  That&#039;s on the same machine, sitting in the exact same seat.  The same scenario was repeated in the Gold Coast.

This is embarrassing for a Linux fan to admit, but I can only report what I saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just taken my Agora Pro away for the first time.  It&#8217;s only about a month old, so it has the newer wireless card.</p>
<p>I too, was thoroughly unimpressed with the wireless performance, getting either weak, slow signals or hotspots that I knew were there simply not appearing in the list of network connections at all.  This was using Ubuntu 9.04 and also 9.10 Release Candidate.</p>
<p>Out of desperation, I tried a Windows partition, installed with the drivers that are available on the Kogan site.  I was rewarded with a dramatic improvement in performance.  A hotspot at Sydney airport was showing as 30% under Ubuntu, and was pig slow and kept disconnecting.  Under Windows, it showed as 80% and was giving nice and fast download speeds.  That&#8217;s on the same machine, sitting in the exact same seat.  The same scenario was repeated in the Gold Coast.</p>
<p>This is embarrassing for a Linux fan to admit, but I can only report what I saw.</p>
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		<title>By: kogan sent me a replacement wireless network mini card &#171; kogan agora netbook</title>
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		<dc:creator>kogan sent me a replacement wireless network mini card &#171; kogan agora netbook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 13:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the problems I had connecting to wireless networks overseas with my kogan agora netbook, I emailed kogan support and explained the issues I had been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kayno</title>
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		<dc:creator>kayno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mason

You are probably right - if two different cards under-perform a USB dongle, than the antenna is the most likely problem. I wonder though if there could be some other issue, poor shielding, problems with the mini-pci express slot, pci bus, etc...

Hopefully I can get my hands on the new wifi card, and test it out and see if i have any more luck...

Cheers
Kayne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mason</p>
<p>You are probably right &#8211; if two different cards under-perform a USB dongle, than the antenna is the most likely problem. I wonder though if there could be some other issue, poor shielding, problems with the mini-pci express slot, pci bus, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Hopefully I can get my hands on the new wifi card, and test it out and see if i have any more luck&#8230;</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Kayne</p>
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		<title>By: Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I haven&#039;t actually opened it but what else could it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I haven&#8217;t actually opened it but what else could it be?</p>
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		<title>By: kayno</title>
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		<dc:creator>kayno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mason

Yep - I have contacted Kogan, and looks like they might send me a replacement out. Will see how it goes.

Looking at the comment from Diesel, the newer card (seems to be a realtek) is still being out performed by a USB dongle (and i would have thought the internal card would have had a better antenna than a dongle).

be interesting to see the results for the realtek card in ubuntu or even windows, however Diesel&#039;s tests were complete and included the belkin dongle on gos, which still outperformed the internal card.

Mason - have you pulled apart the kogan to check the antenna placement/details?

Diesel - I have sent you an email with my address to send the photos too - thanks for the comprehensive tests and comments too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mason</p>
<p>Yep &#8211; I have contacted Kogan, and looks like they might send me a replacement out. Will see how it goes.</p>
<p>Looking at the comment from Diesel, the newer card (seems to be a realtek) is still being out performed by a USB dongle (and i would have thought the internal card would have had a better antenna than a dongle).</p>
<p>be interesting to see the results for the realtek card in ubuntu or even windows, however Diesel&#8217;s tests were complete and included the belkin dongle on gos, which still outperformed the internal card.</p>
<p>Mason &#8211; have you pulled apart the kogan to check the antenna placement/details?</p>
<p>Diesel &#8211; I have sent you an email with my address to send the photos too &#8211; thanks for the comprehensive tests and comments too!</p>
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